Socrates asked whose bias do y'all seek?

from Kanye West (Ft. Frank Ocean & Jay Z) – No Church in the Wild Lyrics on Rap Genius


This is essentially Jay’s take on the Euthyphro dilemma: a conflict between two biases or opinions.

If the gods love something because it is pious, then there must be an objective goodness intrinsic to the universe. If something is pious because the gods love it, then goodness could roughly be seen as arbitrary or subjective.

Jay seems to ignore the fact that Socrates rejects the second part of the dilemma and advanced the notion that objective truth could be discerned through reason (i.e. the Socratic Method). He’s not alone: both members of The Throne seem to advance a slightly revisionist take on Socrates.

As a side note, Socrates was sentenced to death by the Athenian government for corrupting the minds of the youth and chose his method of execution (poisoning via hemlock).

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