BDK is definitely underrated , he might not have the best discography from Brooklyn but his MC skills are strong , got one of the best flows in hip hop with a laid back delivery

@Murkman what about Big Daddy Kane? Or Fabolous?

@YoungToronto he said Big Daddy Kane lol but yeah Fab is also a great MC from Brooklyn , i’m sure theres plenty of top tier MC’s from Brooklyn that have been missed out lol , it will take a long time to point them all out

@TheUltimateDJ391 @YoungToronto Kane still has great music, he had some of he most banging production on his 1st 2 albums. Shit, I replay some of his songs, at least a few times on an annual basis.

Fabolous isn’t really praised for his lackluster discography, more so his features and mixtapes.

@ZacharyMahabir I did respond in that weak ass thread multiple times, I do thread tates as overview reminders on how and why those threads are just garbage.

@swinelord

Look I know, you’re not a fan of her and whatever else that entails. But, bro objectively speaking if nobody doesn’t know how to make a decent thread about a Rap artist these days, why bother?

Also, I don’t get this given half of her last album had “lyricism and interesting subject matter”, that wasn’t on her past albums. Define interesting? Like trendy Black Lives Matter everyone is doing nowadays, or some shit only college students would drool over like Lupe or Aesop?

Idk, how many females you listen to, but most of them barely have subject matter or any kind of lyricism for their entire discographies.

To me, @TheeMurkiness, these annotations aren’t fair to the people who make these threads and are just trying to have decent conversations. If you think that calling people who are active on these forums “morons”, routinely talking about how the site is bad and no one that works here/contributes knows how to do their job and, overall, not having a nurturing and educative attitude that makes users feel inspired to make good work will fix anything, you’re wrong.

You’re creating a vacuum on negativity. That’s all this does. You have to realize that.

I found some of her subject matter on The pinkprint interesting, like that “grand piano” song, but its all overshadowed by this “bad bitch/truffle butter/big ass/bad menage a trois wordplay. I think she has the potential to do something deeper and more interesting, but thats just me

why are you hating on a thread that praises nicki minaj

@ZacharyMahabir you call that thread “decent”? It was negative clickbait from the beginning, lol. He makes most of his threads like that, and idk what you seen, but RG users don’t like to listen or learn from any kind of criticism. I’ve tried that for 2 years, didn’t really “work out” so this “negative space” or “vacuum” you speak off lasts a day at most. I’m not gonna sugarcoat, this shit is annoying.

Maybe you guys should inform the newer users how not to make “dumbass/moronic threads” like a 10 year old could’ve ascertained better in writing, or a Complex editor could’ve wrote to fit their name for once.

im confused as to how this is negative clickbait

@ZacharyMahabir You really think I’m referring to everybody when I say this, and out of users YOU are pretending like this site is stable of all things?

routinely talking about how the site is bad and no one that works here/contributes knows how to do their job

Well the site and 100’s of users agree with me, it looks worse than ever. You guys don’t care about the community to even make a site that STILL LOOKS aesthetically pleasing. It pains me to say it, we ragged on Pitchfork last year, now who has a more presentable looking site?

It damn sure ain’t us, the organization and color scheme is getting worse with every major edit to the design. Is it that hard to make A GOOD LOOKING WEBSITE?

@swinelord oh, I get you yeah that grates me on occasion.

@ZacharyMahabir I’m a simple guy on demands

And if you WANT to know who else besides me doesn’t like the layout of the site, because “Genius says so” try asking all the whitehats, most of the editors we know, some mediators and mods.

@alextr @YoungToronto @NewWorldWater @PseudomonarchiaDaemonum are just a few who have vocal about this continually deteriorating look and overall function.

There’s at LEAST 2 regulators, I know do not like the way this site is being designed in terms of accessibility.
You want more positivity from me? Well show as a site you give a shit about its own, besides adding an “editing” button to comments. Like we couldn’t figure that out years ago, and just now catching up to everyone else?

That’s basic HTML shit if you are making a site, as a social platform. As far as I can tell I’m being constructive, and on my last straw as far as ineptitude goes.

Well, it sounds like you could make a better site! PM me the link, I’ll sign up <3

the regulator role died 2 years ago so how can they dislike the new design

@ZacharyMahabir Not really, but if I did I would obviously have common sense when doing some basic features.

Again, not really unattainable. The fact that we still have the older model pushed to the bottom left, means we are we gonna permanently decide on anything?

@ScopeY I really don’t care of all users what you have to say, given our history (and with the community itself) so don’t even try it.

@ZacharyMahabir Note, I want change like everyone else does obviously, but clearly the community can’t ever STICK WITH A DECISION on what is best for the site, but like always keep saying I’m the problem, whatever.

not sure what i’m trying, i am curious about how you find a way to hate on a thread that praises your fav artist

@Drew_Harvie Actually that’s a good point, which reminds me how many damn roles does this site have now?

Apparently, from what I read there’s gonna be an editor-mediator role? We MIGHT have “cross-roles” now?

Oh I’m sorry, like that’s not fucking confusion enough already and makes sense given Genius’s own guidelines.

I wasn’t aware Regulators don’t exist anymore, does the color still remain, or is only the title of the role gone?

So mods run the site at the top, right? The point is, Genius acts like overall, EVERYBODY just agrees and accepts the current site design.

And nice half-assed sarcasm @ZacharyMahabir “Why don’t you make your own”, idk I am pretty much stuck with Genius, has potential yet seldom seeks to fully utilize it.
Didn’t know having your own thoughts on what needs improvement, all of a sudden means I’d happily join another site. Forgive me if I feel like the tech team can exhibit more of a “I give a fuck about what I bring to designing this site”, kind of demeanor.

As you noticed, I’m clearly NOT part of the tech team, should I put that in my bio to make it obvious?

@Drew_Harvie @ZacharyMahabir and sorry that not all constructive criticism comes with flowers and chocolate.
Genius does have some PROS: A variety of forums, official editors who half of time write great articles, verified artists, etc.

Though site design and accessibility, is not one of those.

@TheeMurkiness

We have Editor / Mediator / Moderator / Staffer (Staffers at top, not Mods). The steel-blue color that regulators used to have is the color that now all staffers have, and the regulator role isn’t something we’ve had for about 2 years now. Mediator+Editor is just having both roles at the same time if you’re capable of both.

@TheeMurkiness The fact of the matter is…and I’ll speak for @Drew_Harvie, too, because we talk enough where I feel he won’t mind…the way you go about teach people things isn’t right. You can’t force me to accept a poorly constructed message. You can’t. You can present to me in a way that makes me want to be better, but that’s not what you’re doing. You’re putting me, him, other users, and the website down because you don’t like a couple of things.

I don’t like everything about the website. You know what I do when that happens? I make a thread, or respond in someone else’s or, if it’s not that big, say nothing. Because the website is here for us to enjoy. Not stress us and be a battleground for negativity.

If I wanted to be talked to like I was an idiot and a child, I’d call my aunt. You’re not my aunt. You’re no one’s aunt.

@ScopeY Oh look, I’m not just talking out of my ass, like you still assume.

@YoungToronto and @NewWorldWater seem to getting the point of this, 2 users your staff appointed.

And save the childish, ineffective sarcasm for comedians, because I had at it this point. Look, I’ve my good, great and even AMAZING times using this time, but God forbid the “bad” doesn’t improvement, and the site keeps getting uglier and more inaccessible.

How many more users have you to drill it through your thick skulls, that’s all I’m really asking?

This isn’t exactly a debate on a panel of scientists on how how science itself can change to accommodate the future of the world, is it? This a community of like-minded users who use a platform on social media, primarily for entertainment that could use a few more basic changes.

If that is interpreted as negativity along with a few more users who doesn’t understand how logic works, then by all means keep generalizing, I don’t really care.

Tbh I’m just here for IQ idc how the site looks as long as it get my IQ

@ZacharyMahabir Also, I have no idea how long you known me to be a user on here (since 2013), but I’ve seen most of the changes this site has gone through, here’s a short list: Favoritism, trolls being banished or leaving (another good thing Genius finally got on), massive disagreements between all members of staff (still going on btw, no one for whatever reason wants to talk about that), huge changes to the site’s overall look and feel, users quitting due to inadequacy or being treated as “bad influences” when the site most of time doesn’t try to get of the worst, etc.

So, I gladly accept somehow being labeled “negative” yet I can’t seem to figure out why when the site half of the time, barely takes its own regulations and guidelines seriously.

You can pretend like I never made positive comments or done ANYTHING positive on here, or you can go along not take anything I just said in these comments into consideration, like these aren’t still gonna problems to eventually worse.

Whatever, not MY PROBLEM as it is YOUR STAFF’s RESPONSIBILITY issues to resolve, as I do not possess power obviously, to do so. The most I can do, is either advise, recommend or criticize like everybody else.

Have a great day.

YOUR STAFF

but I don’t work here

All this over a fucking Nicki Minaj thread ffs? IDK what else you wanted in this thread nigga?

@ZacharyMahabir @DrewHarvey @ScopeY All in all, from what I’ve gathered from this charming discussion here, is, to everybody here apparently, all the users do is purely bemoan about the site at a habitual rate, not influencing change in the least, when that fabricated notion couldn’t be farther from the truth.

We’re perpetually disgruntled because no change is made subsequent to endless input. Staff paints all users with a broad, generalized paintbrush as some kind of monolithic lamentation collective, spouting negativity at every avenue. We as users aren’t wholly responsible for being the damned Martin Luther of RG, especially when the designers of the site are intransigent about pole vaulting into the depths of diminishment, with reckless disregard for repeated suggestions for improvement, almost as if y'all strive demotion.
Don’t play dumb and act like myriads of users haven’t expounded upon their multi-faceted disagreements with the continued dismantlement of this site. We don’t always harp on the “bad”, but there’s ample amounts of “bad” that rather outweigh the good, thus making the site teeter on the brink of unendurable, but the positives of the site are what keep us users here.
You say we need to create more threads and post in existing threads? Alright, so I’ll make a thread detailing my problems with the site, so it can be dumped in a landfill of other threads like it, in a dusty, inactive forum? Post in existing threads? How about that Bagon thread, that summoned bunches of 100 IQ users who all voiced their opinions with a prodigious amount of downvotes, disagreement, detest and on top of all that, the thing you idolize the most, “constructive criticism”, and alas infinitesimal change as a result.

Enough of this whining about our complaints, you white washed tombstones didn’t even realize you’ve been bitching about us more than anything, not improving, not listening, not receiving glaringly palpable messages–just attacking anyone who disagrees with ad-hominem, saying they’re “too aggressive and hostile” and they’re “spreading too much negativity”–what’s that even supposed to mean? What are you my fucking meditation coach? Go rub some crystals to realign your chakras then come back here and fix these egregious hideous formatting “changes”–and even if you don’t work here, you know people who do, cajole them. We give you input and you come back with passels of excuses, such as “ohhh, choosing between black and white is way too arduous for our gentle, fragile HTML programmers” when I’ve seen shittier sites with a plethora of background selections and other options, you’re really telling me the site designers are too lethargic to do their only job on the site? It’s either excuses, or the “we’d like your advice–oh, sorry that’s not what we want to hear, so no can do, Father Knows Best” routine, we ask for black again and you tell us that white is what the internet dictates as “favorable”, like you have a fucking Nielsen Box or you took a complete consensus of the entire internet and the vox populi is a retina-dissolving white and yellow color-scheme with a jammed up, awkward, abstruse, in-offensive, user-unfriendly layout is what is preferred for new users? So, you change everything, on the off-chance there may be a small influx of a variable client-base, and disregard what the people who regularly use your Goddamn site want to see? That’s not how you operate a business.

We can ask nicely or we can hostilely cast aspersions, WE’RE NOT STAFF, we can’t change shit, we’d love to, but we can’t. You dance around nuance and talk a lot of circular, redundant double-speak, subterfuge–and you keep telling us to take action via shit we’ve been doing for eons, then you ignore it, so I don’t know what you expect us to do. You put effort into wastefully superfluous bullshit no one asked for, then you put on your “high contrast, low brain wave activity, bad decision” goggles and begin re-coloring and re-formatting the site into the antithesis of functionality and compatibility. None of what’s been added is user-friendly, I get confused using it and I’ve been here for years, nothing makes sense, immaterial aspects and hoisted to the to top of the page and the things people come to the site for are hidden in the uncomfortable recesses of the page. We’re cantankerous because we’re tired of writing arguments and critiques of all these counter-intuitive, unsightly, fatuous updates to the site, so you can hold on to your infantile sarcasm and belittlement, and maybe throw a little bit of seriousness into this discussion.

@PseudomonarchiaDaemonum

honestly don’t see how that’s relevant to anything i commented on this tate