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TL: My original plan was to go to law school, actually. One with old buildings. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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IMO the old buildings and serious looking books you can find at, for example, Deare Olde Yale, really do trick you into thinking school is super-duper-important and that what you really need to feel fulfilled is more of it.

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...s were fine and great, but they made us tired, and we were there a lot, and they weren't our projects, and we had a lot of energy. And I think we applied it toward building stuff on the internet. And I gotta give it up for Tom, he became a great programmer very fast. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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Awww, thanks Ilan!

It’s true that I didn’t study CS in college, but IMO programming is one of those “make 1,000 pots” things for me (like ceramics and unlike, say, painting).

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IZ: I think we both had a sort of the "work my way up." I was working at Google, and I think we both thought our jobs were fine and great, but they made us tired, and we were there a lot, and they weren't our projects, and we had a lot of energy. And I think we applied it toward building stuff on the internet. And I gotta give it up for Tom, he became a great... Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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In partic, for me, owing to the time difference between NYC and Hyderabad, which was where many of my coworkers lived.

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TL: The BlackBerry app for Dez Flow we would call Dez Flow Ber, like Flaubert. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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Jesse Pizarro, a friend from college and D.E. Shaw coworker, came up with this joke (I’m constantly stealing jokes and also reusing my old jokes, sorry!)

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Sign of old age for sure…

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... piece of software he worked on extensively called Dez Flow, which was their internal work flow. Like, if you have to file a bug, or request an office supply. And Tom knew so much about Dez Flow, and I had talked to him so extensively about Dez Flow, it was only natural that we moved into something else, I think. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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It’s true! Sorry Ilan!!

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IZ: Tom was a product manager who was building, like, workflow technology. Tom had this piece of software he worked on extensively called Dez Flow, which was their internal work flow. Like, if you have to file a bug, or request an office supply. And Tom knew so much about Dez Flow, and I had talked to him so extensively about Dez Flow, it was only natural that we moved into something else, I think. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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Kind of like Trello + Jira + Zendesk… you feel me.

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IZ: Tom was a product manager who was building, like, workflow technology. Tom had this piece of software he worked on extensively called Dez Flow, which was their internal work flow. Like, if you have to file a bug, or request an office supply. And Tom knew so much about Dez Flow, and I had talked to him so extensively about Dez Flow, it was o... Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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It’s actually “DESFlow,” which is a portmanteau of “D.E. Shaw” and “workflow.”

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IZ: Tom had a really funny blog which was Seamless Web Sucks, where he shat on Seamless' UI. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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Still their UI isn’t great but they bring the sushi, so… much love!

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TL: I really try not to be so critical anymore. It's hard! It's really hard. So, don't criticize people ever. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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For two reasons:

It’s hard, especially when you’re in your twenties, to appreciate how difficult it is to do anything. So basically unless you’ve produced a great movie you shouldn’t go around criticizing other people’s movies.
Quoting Art and Fear: You are seldom in a position to grant (or withhold) approval on the one issue that really counts—namely, whether or not they’re making progress in their work.

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TL: This builds the groundwork of our relationship. Full transcript: Genius co-founders Tom Lehman and Ilan Zechory on Recode Media - Recode

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I think what I was saying here is “‘This’ being the groundwork of our relationship (which we did ‘build’ in college)”

Which is kind of cheeky but also kind of true! Hopefully your relationships with the people you love outlast the projects you’re working on, important though those might be.

(And now OOPS! I’m feeling like Lukas Graham again!!)

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