So Does Anyone Hear Actually Make Music? Wanna Talk Theory? (Back to the forum)
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Basically I rap in times other than 4/4, and common time seems to be all anyone around this site (not to mention the world at large) seems to be doing. Ive been wondering for years. I mean why does everyone rap in 4/4 fuck even doctor dre and marshal mathers did a song with a 5/4 feel in the chorus, on that album with m’s face made from a collage. it had a red background. anyway. i am going crazy trying to find people taht are as good as me. please, somebody, answer my calling, please. ANYBODY DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN 4 measures of 4/4? hahaha ANYONE? ill post some examples of mine if anyone shows up here. |
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January 19th, 2013
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I just write as I write, so I don’t try to make anything a specific signature, but just 4 measures of 4/4 bores the fuck out of me so if I notice that I usually change it. Not the kind of thing I notice in other rapper’s music, but you maybe just ruined some artist’s for me if I start paying attention too much. |
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January 19th, 2013
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see for me, see ive been stugying music in general, along with the rest of life. but anyway staying on topic. ive been studying for a long time. i cant stand 4/4 i walk out on performances of 4/4 no shit i write in 15/8 like7/8 all tons of shit… and 4/4 too. but not EXCLUSIVELY OH MY FUCKING GOD AT THIS PLANET AND THEIR HABIT OF 4/4 like especially in rap and pop music wtf im about to post some mixed number rapppssss |
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January 19th, 2013
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like when you start writng in other times, you start freestyling in other times out of nowhere. you know when you just start saying a verse? nowadays mine are all fucked up! like in new times. its awesome i practice being on flow too. so its not like…. shitty mixed numbers. or another example, do any odd beat, or prime number beat like 19 or 13 or 11 or anything doesnt matter, do it twice back to back, and it makes a nice POP pattern its awesome…. um dude there are fucking infinity numbers holy shit WTF is everyones problem??? omg??? the only rap in 4/4 i like is like some tech n9ne shit….. idk man |
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January 19th, 2013
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Fuck are ya talking about? |
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January 19th, 2013
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I listen to a lot of math rock, so I like a good amount of complicated time signatures and stuff, but also hate it when people just try to use a fucked up time signature to be different. It can be done right, but a lot of times it just fucks up the flow and sounds awkward. There’s a reason people use 4/4, its the most natural timing and what we’re all used to hearing. If you got to deviate from that its to make the song sound better, or your just complicating something for the sake of complications. My general thoughts on the subject, not really for hip hop directly. Waltzes (3/3) are usually pretty sweet tho, haven’t rapped over one but it’d probably be fun and sound classy as fuck, would try it. |
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January 19th, 2013
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4/4 fractals, but dude, what about 9/8 3 sets of 3 YOU COULD JUST TRY to do something new SOMETHING NEW like new times and ill be impressed. NO SHIT but no one tries… i like free verse, but i especially like CONSTRUCTED SHIT |
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January 19th, 2013
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YOU SAID YOU were GOING to post EXAMPLES |
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January 19th, 2013
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this is 8 measures of 7/8 that means there are 7 eighth notes per measure instead of 8 (1)Fuck you people and your lame (5)Rappin measures seven eight |
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January 19th, 2013
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im talking about using rhythms other than BABY 4/4 COME ON AND GROW UP GET REAL |
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January 19th, 2013
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I feel like you obsess over this subject a lot man. Like to the point you’re writing out giant charts on like one of those big art desks and bugging people not even listening to the music like playing over their heads at Burger King about the lack of patterns. And then revealing like some 37/7.5 masterpiece you spent like a year working on to no one really even understanding what you did or what is happening with it. Probably just the caps and the pretty nerdish subject matter. I don’t think you’re crazy IRL, maybe, probably not. |
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January 19th, 2013
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NAW MAN I TOTALLY HEAR YOU BUT I DISAGREE YOURE AFRAID OF BEING JUDGED I AINT NIGGA IM FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YEAH at least as free as any other american slave. buut uh. |
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January 19th, 2013
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MAN I CANT READ YOUR WHOLE POST CUZ YOU AINT GETTIN IT IM FROM SPACE DUDE HELLO IM NOT MAKING MUSIC THAT DOESNT SOUND GOOD HAHAHA DONT YOU GET IT IM DOING 7/8 its one off from 8/8 hello 15/16ths? hello |
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January 19th, 2013
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Can ya fuckboys explain what ya trying to do? |
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January 19th, 2013
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Im sure you can do it without me holding your hand. SEE YOU THINK WHAT IM DOING IS HARD HAHAHAAHAHA ITS EASY some people think 4/4 is hard baby…….. think about that |
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January 19th, 2013
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yeah dude look 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 now the first time i ever tried doin other times 1 2 3 4 5 shit like i said even eminem can do that. one out of how many thousands people ive heared. only him and myself have done that…. wtf |
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January 19th, 2013
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DwaneKric
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dude you got any audio examples? i’ve always wanted to venture away from 4/4 but its kind of like become the norm in pop and hip hop so I can’t really imagine what a different time signature song will sound like… |
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January 19th, 2013
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just have fun and experiment with your syllables per bar 123 123 123 12 1234 thats 2 bars of 15 thats sick shit man |
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January 19th, 2013
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like this say this out loud “bustling bustling bustling busy busy busy” thats 123 123 123 12 12 12 HELLO |
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January 19th, 2013
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DWANE ERIC OH OH OH look up RAP IN 15/8 on youtube and youll find this 1 guy who made one like a year ago or something. its a start dude. YOU REALLY JUST HAVE TO BE GOOD AT MUSIC MAN |
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January 19th, 2013
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this is a rap in 6 (“six,eight”. is how you pronounce 6/8) for any music noobs |
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January 19th, 2013
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this is a rap in seven |
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January 19th, 2013
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Rainbowstarfield is a fuckboy, fuck your “7/8”, this shit is pointless as fuck |
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January 19th, 2013
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this is an example of a that is 8/8 otherwise known as “common time” or 4/4 or 2/2 even or even as many of you may see it 16/16 |
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January 19th, 2013
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thumbs you reek of jealousy. go take a shower and then come back. maybe youll get your head straight too. i can do anything you can do but better i make beats on the computer that fractal in and out with automation. |
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January 19th, 2013
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its not pointless thumb up your ass, its called cooler than you. take a second look at yourself like i said. |
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January 19th, 2013
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How does this make me jealous, I find this unnecessary to make good music. I called you a fuck boy because I don’t like the way you talking to my mans over there. FUCKBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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January 19th, 2013
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JEALOUS haha go do your own forum you say fuck listen what you say gtfo |
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January 19th, 2013
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January 19th, 2013
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no but it looks like i got 0.o |
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January 19th, 2013
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PLEASE KEEP THE POSTS RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF THE FORUM |
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January 19th, 2013
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OP you sound like a purist, wannabe-ill nigga |
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January 19th, 2013
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huf whatever you said makes little to no sense, |
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January 19th, 2013
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im a musician and i get paid and laid. people walk up to me and put money in my breast pocket so far…. at least judging by the lame comments….. yall are stuck in the past. |
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January 19th, 2013
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IF YOU SUCCESSFUL AND SHIT WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE? FUCKBOY!!! |
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January 19th, 2013
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well thumbs im just trying to hang out with stupid people like you, who cant help but repeating the same thing over and over, cuz they suck at art. just here to help you guys. see if i could LEARN anything |
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January 19th, 2013
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why does this thubs guy not have access to ethenogens???? |
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January 19th, 2013
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Okay, OP, all disses aside where I can peep your joints then? So I can see whether or not you live up to the hype you’ve generated for yourself for yourself |
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January 19th, 2013
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ANYBODY ACTUALLY HAVE ANY REAL EXPERIENCES TO ADD INSTEAD OF BEING GAY ON ME ANYONE GOT ANY REAL EXPERIENCE TO ADD HERE? like the 2nd poster had.. |
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January 19th, 2013
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One, http://composerscorner1.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-appreciate-rap-music-3-is-nas.html GET ON NAS' LEVEL, SON! Two, most rappers aren’t technically trained musicians, so they probably would only be vaguely familiar with what you’re talking about (kinda like me) and tend to write the way that’s most natural for them. Also, you’re really not good. Stop acting like you’re fucking amazing just because you use unusual time signatures. |
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January 19th, 2013
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not tryna talk to the kids here… really… i havent given any material only preliminary examples of simple syllable patterns like i said coulda wrote that 3 years ago. and im not GOOD ONLY CUZ I USE EXTRA TIMES AND LOTS OF OTHER EXTRA SHIT OYU DONT but CUZ I CAN DO WHAT YOU CAN DO, AND ok |
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January 19th, 2013
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ps, dont call me yo baby. and nas level IS STANKY im high nigga aint no stank upin hya |
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January 19th, 2013
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I have music.. if that’s experience. |
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January 19th, 2013
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A-Electronica
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Dude, you can’t claim to be such a superior rapper and provide no audio examples. Anyone can write down a few bars and post them on a forum. Stop procrastinating and prove your value. |
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January 19th, 2013
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thank you huf. this is the first time ive posted on here. now that i actually have someone to talk seriously with. ill do that. just let me say sorry for not having material prepped. everyones asking for this and that, meanwhile some gay guy on here thumbs keeps emailing me. again thanks for the second look huf, you got mine |
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January 19th, 2013
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^ I got you, people here can be harsh sometimes but it’s because a lot and i mean ALOT of wannabe rappers show up and spam the forums, you either have to have some material prepared or don’t bother in the future. Just a heads up dude |
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January 19th, 2013
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thanks man. for real ill remember! |
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January 19th, 2013
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You could, you know, post some lyrics, as rap is largely a lyrical artform. Also, I fail to see how judging your ability on the stuff you have posted makes me a retard. And besides, if you’re going to post examples, I’d think you’d at least make them decent, not the first shit you thought of. I care you could have written that Nas thing three years ago why? Also, it doesn’t matter if it’s biased or not. You said yourself, it checked out. So, basically Nas does without trying what you hold yourself up as being amazing because of. Last I checked, I wasn’t a rapper. Nor was I trying to be. Nor am I interested in pursuing any kind of career in music. So yeah, you are better than me in all those areas. And here’s all two Chihuahua shits I give:
Hell, I could do the same thing. I’m a way better writer, better at math and science, and am all around smarter than you. See? Accusations supported by no facts, simply my ego. Real hard. And now you’re trying to justify your asshat-ery with being high. Real classy. Also, way to respond to my second point. Basically, don’t come here and be an egotistical fuck. I don’t really care that you find 4/4 boring. I have a friend that feels the same way. I also don’t care that you would like more variation in time signatures to be more commonplace. But don’t act like you’re automatically better than everyone else. And, as people have said, providing some stuff (whether it’s actual songcloud files or even transcribed lyrics) would go a long way to help your case. |
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January 19th, 2013
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The_Tasteless
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Hey, speaking as a classical and jazz trained musician, having played in jazz fusion groups based on strange meters, odd time signatures aren’t really that impressive. |
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January 19th, 2013
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arobie youre in denial get over yourself and at the tasteless. speaking as an intelligent person who can do anythign you can do, you are plain out lying. you know damn straight that playing in new good ways is better than old boring ways. evryone here is about progression. if you are good at times. than good for you. so am i. im on the next levvel passed that. |
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January 19th, 2013
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