So Does Anyone Hear Actually Make Music? Wanna Talk Theory? (Back to the forum)

Basically I rap in times other than 4/4, and common time seems to be all anyone around this site (not to mention the world at large) seems to be doing.

Ive been wondering for years. I mean why does everyone rap in 4/4
Every once in a while ill hear 6/8

fuck even doctor dre and marshal mathers did a song with a 5/4 feel in the chorus, on that album with m’s face made from a collage. it had a red background.

anyway. i am going crazy trying to find people taht are as good as me.

please, somebody, answer my calling, please.

ANYBODY DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN 4 measures of 4/4? hahaha ANYONE?

ill post some examples of mine if anyone shows up here.

I just write as I write, so I don’t try to make anything a specific signature, but just 4 measures of 4/4 bores the fuck out of me so if I notice that I usually change it. Not the kind of thing I notice in other rapper’s music, but you maybe just ruined some artist’s for me if I start paying attention too much.

see for me, see ive been stugying music in general, along with the rest of life. but anyway staying on topic. ive been studying for a long time.

i cant stand 4/4

i walk out on performances of 4/4

no shit

i write in 15/8

like7/8

all tons of shit…

and 4/4 too. but not EXCLUSIVELY OH MY FUCKING GOD
IM GOING CRAZY

AT THIS PLANET AND THEIR HABIT OF 4/4
and the denial of ALL other times

like especially in rap and pop music wtf

im about to post some mixed number rapppssss

like when you start writng in other times, you start freestyling in other times out of nowhere.

you know when you just start saying a verse?

nowadays mine are all fucked up! like in new times. its awesome

i practice being on flow too. so its not like…. shitty mixed numbers.
Its like, good combos of mixed numbers. and intelligent designs like do any mixed number, and then a phrase of 4 beats at the end and its sounds good.

or another example, do any odd beat, or prime number beat like 19 or 13 or 11 or anything doesnt matter, do it twice back to back, and it makes a nice POP pattern its awesome…. um dude

there are fucking infinity numbers holy shit WTF is everyones problem??? omg???
for years im pacing writing insane shit.

the only rap in 4/4 i like is like some tech n9ne shit….. idk man

Fuck are ya talking about?

I listen to a lot of math rock, so I like a good amount of complicated time signatures and stuff, but also hate it when people just try to use a fucked up time signature to be different. It can be done right, but a lot of times it just fucks up the flow and sounds awkward.

There’s a reason people use 4/4, its the most natural timing and what we’re all used to hearing. If you got to deviate from that its to make the song sound better, or your just complicating something for the sake of complications. My general thoughts on the subject, not really for hip hop directly.

Waltzes (3/3) are usually pretty sweet tho, haven’t rapped over one but it’d probably be fun and sound classy as fuck, would try it.

4/4 fractals, but dude, what about 9/8 3 sets of 3
Dude thats a fractal too. people ask me “do you like tool? they do weird numbers” no
no i dont like tool. i like hip hop. i like good music. but i dont like anyone elses hip hop. rarely i mean. it has to be prime shit. but man you could JUST TRY

YOU COULD JUST TRY to do something new

SOMETHING NEW like new times

and ill be impressed. NO SHIT

but no one tries…

i like free verse, but i especially like CONSTRUCTED SHIT
PATTERNS
DEEP PATTERNS MAN

YOU SAID YOU were

GOING to post

EXAMPLES

this is 8 measures of 7/8 that means there are 7 eighth notes per measure instead of 8

(1)Fuck you people and your lame
(2)excuse for what you call game
(3)I got much more skill than you
(4)You cant do what i can do

(5)Rappin measures seven eight
(6)Right out of the fuckin gate
(7)Twist like i dont give a fuck
(8)Dont even try to keep up

im talking about using rhythms other than BABY 4/4
Staying in 4/4 all the time is for KIDS AND THE HANDICAPPED

COME ON AND GROW UP

GET REAL

I feel like you obsess over this subject a lot man. Like to the point you’re writing out giant charts on like one of those big art desks and bugging people not even listening to the music like playing over their heads at Burger King about the lack of patterns. And then revealing like some 37/7.5 masterpiece you spent like a year working on to no one really even understanding what you did or what is happening with it.

Probably just the caps and the pretty nerdish subject matter. I don’t think you’re crazy IRL, maybe, probably not.

NAW MAN

I TOTALLY HEAR YOU BUT I DISAGREE

YOURE AFRAID OF BEING JUDGED I AINT NIGGA

IM FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

YEAH

at least as free as any other american slave. buut uh.
Im as free as a jazz musician who cant keep it on
with rappin an bass slappin drummin guitar strummin an all that

MAN I CANT READ YOUR WHOLE POST CUZ YOU AINT GETTIN IT

IM FROM SPACE DUDE

HELLO

IM NOT MAKING MUSIC THAT DOESNT SOUND GOOD
YOU ARE

HAHAHA DONT YOU GET IT

IM DOING 7/8

its one off from 8/8

hello

15/16ths? hello
its 1 16th of from 16 its sounds sick are you dumb???

Can ya fuckboys explain what ya trying to do?

Im sure you can do it without me holding your hand.

SEE YOU THINK WHAT IM DOING IS HARD

HAHAHAAHAHA
But it aint NIGGA

ITS EASY
HAHAHAHAHAAHA

some people think 4/4 is hard baby…….. think about that

yeah dude look
Watch

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

now the first time i ever tried doin other times
i did (on the guitar)

1 2 3 4 5
1 2 3 4 5
1 2 3 4 5
1 2 3 4 5

shit like i said even eminem can do that. one out of how many thousands people ive heared. only him and myself have done that…. wtf

dude you got any audio examples? i’ve always wanted to venture away from 4/4 but its kind of like become the norm in pop and hip hop so I can’t really imagine what a different time signature song will sound like…

just have fun and experiment with your syllables per bar

123 123 123 12 1234
123 123 123 12 1234

thats 2 bars of 15

thats sick shit man
i do that all day
not all day hahahahaha but you know what i mean

like this say this out loud

“bustling bustling bustling busy busy busy”

thats 123 123 123 12 12 12
Or
a set of 9 next to a set of 6
which is a 2/3 ratio
or.666_

HELLO
DADADADADADA MAFUCKAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKYEAH

DWANE ERIC
I know what you mean yes i have audio examples just ahang with me im talking to a lot of people. just pm me or something

OH OH OH
NO you guys

look up

RAP IN 15/8 on youtube

and youll find this 1 guy who made one like a year ago or something.

its a start dude. YOU REALLY JUST HAVE TO BE GOOD AT MUSIC MAN
JSUT GET A FEEL FOR IT
KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE
KNOW WHAT WORKS MAN
ITS CRAZY SHIT

this is a rap in 6
Notice it goes like this
1 2 3 4 5 6
6/8 is what this is

(“six,eight”. is how you pronounce 6/8) for any music noobs

this is a rap in seven
It’s one of my favorites
i do a lot of random
shit that ends up 7/8

Rainbowstarfield is a fuckboy, fuck your “7/8”, this shit is pointless as fuck

this is an example of a
Rap that is in 8/8 time k?
notice how i count to eight like
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4

that is 8/8 otherwise known as “common time” or 4/4 or 2/2 even or even as many of you may see it 16/16

thumbs you reek of jealousy.

go take a shower and then come back.

maybe youll get your head straight too. i can do anything you can do but better
Inside out backwards and faster

i make beats on the computer that fractal in and out with automation.
the shit im doing now will be popular in 10 years
btw im pro dude
sup pop is my neighbor so im no stranger to success
please, disregard your own previous state of denial, and succumb to that which is KNOWLEDGE or forever be lowly

its not pointless thumb up your ass, its called cooler than you.
Thats what everyone says, when i school you in your own style then fly higher to my superior style

take a second look at yourself like i said.

How does this make me jealous, I find this unnecessary to make good music. I called you a fuck boy because I don’t like the way you talking to my mans over there.

FUCKBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JEALOUS

haha go do your own forum
Look at you memer

you say fuck
you have that tv person on your picture

listen what you say
all you do is copy other people needlessly
i call you a meme sucker

gtfo

no but it looks like i got
YET ANOTHER FAN

0.o

PLEASE KEEP THE POSTS RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF THE FORUM

OP you sound like a purist, wannabe-ill nigga

huf whatever you said makes little to no sense,
And has absolutely nothign to do with me

im a musician and i get paid and laid. people walk up to me and put money in my breast pocket
Beautiful girls walk up to me and make out with me
all cuz im so good at music all in all
WAAAAAAY ATOP you guys

so far…. at least judging by the lame comments…..

yall are stuck in the past.

IF YOU SUCCESSFUL AND SHIT WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE? FUCKBOY!!!

well thumbs im just trying to hang out with stupid people like you, who cant help but repeating the same thing over and over, cuz they suck at art.

just here to help you guys.

see if i could LEARN anything
But apparently im the smartest person whose posted.

why does this thubs guy not have access to ethenogens????

Okay, OP, all disses aside where I can peep your joints then? So I can see whether or not you live up to the hype you’ve generated for yourself for yourself

ANYBODY ACTUALLY HAVE ANY REAL EXPERIENCES TO ADD

INSTEAD OF BEING GAY ON ME
BEING JEALOUS AND NIPPIN AT MY PEE HOLE

ANYONE GOT ANY REAL EXPERIENCE TO ADD HERE? like the 2nd poster had..

One, http://composerscorner1.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-appreciate-rap-music-3-is-nas.html

GET ON NAS' LEVEL, SON!

Two, most rappers aren’t technically trained musicians, so they probably would only be vaguely familiar with what you’re talking about (kinda like me) and tend to write the way that’s most natural for them.

Also, you’re really not good. Stop acting like you’re fucking amazing just because you use unusual time signatures.

not tryna talk to the kids here… really…
Arobie youve never heard my material. so for you to tell me im not good, makes me think your A MOTHER FUCKING RETARD

i havent given any material

only preliminary examples of simple syllable patterns
and that nas thing, i could have wrote that 3 years ago, if it were true. but its biased. as far as the math in it, its right.

like i said coulda wrote that 3 years ago.

and im not GOOD ONLY CUZ I USE EXTRA TIMES AND LOTS OF OTHER EXTRA SHIT OYU DONT

but CUZ I CAN

DO WHAT YOU CAN DO,
BETTER

AND
GOT LOTSA EXTRA SHIT ON YA

ok

ps, dont call me yo baby. and nas level IS STANKY

im high nigga

aint no stank upin hya

I have music.. if that’s experience.

https://soundcloud.com/casovich-marlowka/cas-marlow-phlaws

Dude, you can’t claim to be such a superior rapper and provide no audio examples. Anyone can write down a few bars and post them on a forum. Stop procrastinating and prove your value.

thank you huf.
Now listen good ok

this is the first time ive posted on here.
im a real person.
and ive just been harrassed but its ok.
ill come back with a link to a sound cloud.
i dont have a sound cloud butt ive been on it lately and im about to make one

now that i actually have someone to talk seriously with. ill do that.

just

let me say sorry for not having material prepped. everyones asking for this and that, meanwhile some gay guy on here thumbs keeps emailing me.
ill put something cool up but as for now im signing off, smoking a JOINT
and working on some tracks.

again thanks for the second look huf, you got mine

^ I got you, people here can be harsh sometimes but it’s because a lot and i mean ALOT of wannabe rappers show up and spam the forums, you either have to have some material prepared or don’t bother in the future. Just a heads up dude

thanks man. for real ill remember!

You could, you know, post some lyrics, as rap is largely a lyrical artform.

Also, I fail to see how judging your ability on the stuff you have posted makes me a retard. And besides, if you’re going to post examples, I’d think you’d at least make them decent, not the first shit you thought of.

I care you could have written that Nas thing three years ago why? Also, it doesn’t matter if it’s biased or not. You said yourself, it checked out. So, basically Nas does without trying what you hold yourself up as being amazing because of.

Last I checked, I wasn’t a rapper. Nor was I trying to be. Nor am I interested in pursuing any kind of career in music. So yeah, you are better than me in all those areas. And here’s all two Chihuahua shits I give:

Hell, I could do the same thing. I’m a way better writer, better at math and science, and am all around smarter than you. See? Accusations supported by no facts, simply my ego. Real hard.

And now you’re trying to justify your asshat-ery with being high. Real classy.

Also, way to respond to my second point.

Basically, don’t come here and be an egotistical fuck. I don’t really care that you find 4/4 boring. I have a friend that feels the same way. I also don’t care that you would like more variation in time signatures to be more commonplace. But don’t act like you’re automatically better than everyone else. And, as people have said, providing some stuff (whether it’s actual songcloud files or even transcribed lyrics) would go a long way to help your case.

Hey, speaking as a classical and jazz trained musician, having played in jazz fusion groups based on strange meters, odd time signatures aren’t really that impressive.

arobie youre in denial

get over yourself

and at the tasteless.

speaking as an intelligent person who can do anythign you can do, you are plain out lying. you know damn straight that playing in new good ways is better than old boring ways.
Dont lie to anyone. ESPECIALLY YOURSELF

evryone here is about progression.

if you are good at times. than good for you. so am i. im on the next levvel passed that.
according things to which ever way i design by higher, deeper grooves than everyone else i see.
keeping my soul in mind.
and yalls by the way. it IS for everybody LOL thats why i dont get mad at the fools round here