Pakyed: Beating A dead horse (Response to J Trauma) End of Beef
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Lil Wayne, In His Prime, was Better than Eminem in His...
At his best, Eminem might be the greatest of all time at making words rhyme. He was a battle rapper who could get pretty effectively introspective when the stars lined up (“If I Had”, “Rock Bottom”, “Stan”) who later (albeit briefly) developed into a a compellingly personal, angry, and honest rapper (The Eminem Show). But here’s where I start to break the internet.
Em’s first two albums haven’t aged very well. The Marshall Mathers LP in particular relies heavily on mutli-syllable rhyming, shock value, and easy pop-culture commentary in the form of celebrity baiting. The first two elements don’t hold up very well on repeat listens, and the third doesn’t really play at all today. Now, I’m opposed to the so-called “hip hop purist” mentality that we have to somehow determine if music is ‘timeless’ before we praise it, but some of the lines, verses, and entire songs, at times that Em was putting out at the beginning of his career, are extremely hard to listen to now.
And while he was perfectly late-90s in his appeal, teenagers simply aren’t as angry anymore, and songs like “The Way I Am” come off far too woe-is-me and, frankly, embarrassing to be enjoyable…at least for me. In the interest of being fair (and protecting my family’s safety), I want to reiterate that Em was a technical genius from 99 through 03, and made some exceptionally good music. His catalog just doesn’t stack up well against those belonging to the artists that fans want to compare him to.
In contrast, let’s look at Wayne, one of the most oddly divisive rappers of the last generation. While he was the consensus “best rapper alive” in many circles during his 05-08 heyday,he was and is the bastion of everything wrong with music.
Wayne started his incredible run with 2005′s Tha Carter 2, one of the better coke-rap albums of this century, but really rose to his current stature with the mixtape run between C2 and C3, a run that included Dedication 2, Da Drought 3, the impeccable Carter 3 session songs, and innumerable guest features and one-off songs.
Wayne’s greatness is actually pretty easy to explain when you get right down to it: Rappers deal primarily in charisma. Sure, for some rappers, rhyming well in a classical sense is what makes them appealing. For others, their imagery, their humor, their rhyming ability, or something else might be what makes them an arresting figure that commands your attention.
For four years, Wayne was the most charismatic person on the planet, and maintained that attention-grabbing quality by constantly taking left turns and executing all his weird creative choices with an ear for quality that’s overwhelming both for the sheer quality of most of his music during the period and the volume of music he released.
When everyone was biting the hook of “Duffle Bag Boyz”, he made “I Feel Like Dying.” When everyone finally jumped on the autotune train, he made “La La La.” When people caught the appeal of:
“See I am God’s son, but you know I ain’t Nas/’Cause, see, he got a positive aim, and I aim nines”
He turned around and made “Tie My Hands.” When it comes right down to it, Wayne developed what was actually a pretty unique and subversive style and made it ubiquitous to the point it was unavoidable. Just like Eminem, Wayne has created legions of imitators who are capable only of making pale, awful renditions of his best work, but that shouldn’t cloud the fact that these guys were great rappers in their day…Wayne was just a bit better.
— Paul Thompson
lil wayne in his prime was top 5 doa. em sucks. sooooo….
teenagers simply aren’t as angry anymore
That’s a fucking lie
EMINEM VS LIL. WAYNE
^Hope Em is the dog..?
Wayne is obviously the dog.
“Doctor Imma dog, Imma dog, Imma dog ya”
Mrs. Officer SOATY
Ironically, Em is the Dog.
HE’S DOING THINGS MUCH BIGGER
“Em’s first two albums haven’t aged very well. The Marshall Mathers LP in particular relies heavily on mutli-syllable rhyming, shock value, and easy pop-culture commentary in the form of celebrity baiting”
It seems every other day I see another fan of commercial radio hating on multies,like it or not it’s much harder to write a bar and make it fit into an intricate logical rhyme structure then just writing a verse and have half the lines ending with “nigga” or a monosyllabic rhyme .
As for shock value,MMLP was all about responding to the critics of the SSLP for there overreaction and puritanist opposition to the content, he didn’t pointlessly go out and insult Britney and N'Sync in Marshall Mathers it was a reflection on how bad American culture had gotten similar with ,he doesn’t just make fun of Reeves because it is funny he does it as a response to the media finding his jokes annoying like how there were gay couples kissing in Russian streets to protest the homophobic legislation the parliament had passed.
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Asian guy = OP
Watermelon = this thread
It seems every other day I see another fan of commercial radio hating on multies,like it or not it’s much harder to write a bar and make it fit into an intricate logical rhyme structure then just writing a verse and have half the lines ending with “nigga” or a monosyllabic rhyme
To be fair, empty multisyllabic rhyming can be pretty cheap as well. Not taking sides in OP’s debate, as I’m not a particularly big fan of neither, just wanted to point that out. Some people mistake multisyllabics for great lyrics.
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Also, while some of the points in the article are pretty “edgy”, I appreciate him giving Slug props (even though top 5 is pretty high, more like top 20 for me), and I agree on the point of Takeover>Ether