Tupac isn't top 10...

Whenever we have the discussion about who the best rappers in the game are, we always talk about the music they produce.
With Pac what I have noticed, is that we rarely speak about his music any longer, but how much his death impacted Hip-Hop. Once we actually take a look at his music, you will begin to recognize some of the flaws that Pac had as an emcee. Yes! A lot of his music was great at garnering an emotion, but his flow is very juvenile compared to some of the greats. Tupac’s greatest lyrical song is often noted as “Hail Mary”, I can name plenty of emcees who have out done that song, more than a few times. (Jay-Z, NaSs, Biggie, Jadakiss, Wayne, & Big Pun). The truth of the matter is that Pac was very much so a mediocre lyricist. His flow never changed, and he was very repetitive with his rhymes.

Some people listen to Pac and feel that he is the best simply because he is the realest cat to do it.
I can’t cosign this statement. When Pac really was popping, it was Thug Life all day. Yet, people forget that this cat went to a school for the performing arts. Jada Pinkett was his best friend. How hood is that? Is that Thug Life? No this guy created a persona and sold it to the masses (The same thing that Rick Ross gets slack for). Is that wrong? No! I think it is just entertainment, but you can’t say 2Pac is one of the best because of how REAL he was.

Pac became greater in death than he ever could have if he was living.
When Tupac was alive he wasn’t considered this great man, he was just another rapper with a troubled back ground. He had been shot, sued, and convicted of rape. The way the media portrayed him when he was alive was just another angry black man. As soon as he dies though, he was viewed as some kind of martyr. People looked at him as though he had died so that Hip-Hop can live. If Pac had died after Biggie, then Biggie would be the martyr, and Pac would be another rapper who died in violence (R.I.P. Big L).

If Pac was still alive, his legacy wouldn’t be a fraction of what it is today.
Let’s just be real, if he was alive today he would have been forced to retire and go into acting. He would have been the West Coast version of LL Cool J. Respected, but no one would buy his records.

I know this article may feel as though I am shitting on a legend, but I’m not. A lot of people feel the same way I do, but don’t want to have people feel like they are disrespecting Tupac. I know he has meant a lot to our culture, but why should we turn a blind eye to the truth of the matter? I also think Lil’ B can be important to Hip-Hop, but if he dies I won’t call him the best. Pac was a great personality for Hip-Hop, but not the best emcee.

might be top 50 that’s bout it. Lil wayne is better so is jay z.

February 25th, 2014

like i’m reading any of that

February 25th, 2014

cuz u know im right.

February 25th, 2014

So, when is a mod going to start deleting this guys threads now?

Very much appreciated.

February 25th, 2014

That was a mouthful, of well thought out content and then trolls the last sentence


February 25th, 2014

@REAL-NIGGA-NO-NAME-CHANGE seriously though I read the 1st bar then bounced out lol sorry ? MAKAVELI

February 25th, 2014

he was good but not great. i agree, not top 10.i like him a lot too. i just feel like his name was cemented as a legend because of his dramatic death. he was good but i hate how people have this mindset like “pac and big the best”. without that beef with biggie and his death he wouldn’t be thought of the same. i like his music,he just not good enough for the top 10.

February 25th, 2014
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I actually started reading this and then I saw who posted it … so now I’m just making this reply comment and

February 25th, 2014

dudes got a point, it might be his third thread but its a legit one

February 25th, 2014
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ITT: OP doesn’t know the definition of lyricist

February 25th, 2014

And I’m tired of fagz saying if tupac didn’t die he wouldn’t be any good because he is dead he gave his live to hip hop his work ethnic and tenacity made him great he was down for hip hop and left us with master pieces he would just keep getting better at rapping he was only 25 that’s the average starting age of a rapper today that’s bullshit to say he isn’t top 10 with all the influences he has had on hip hop today

February 25th, 2014

Didn’t Pac go double plat while in Prison??? FAM SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

Most of these damn rappers not what they say they are. They like to say they sell drugs to confirm they hood but a white college kid just trying to pay for school and get some food in his fridge does that also. Most of these rappers aint what they say they are so how you gone fault Pac and say he aint top 10 cuz he danced and cared about the hood?


Pac got shot up and gave the finger while being loaded in the ambulance. real thugs get shot in the leg and be scared a FUCK they gone die or lose a leg.

Back then having your own style was the big thing. So you MAD at Pac for having the same flow like he was the ONly rapper with the same flow. And I heard Pac speed up his lyrics a few fuckin times.


February 25th, 2014

@ChicagoNative Skill wise he isn’t top ten lyrically. he isn’t top ten flow wise. He isn’t top ten Production wise. where is he top ten…

February 25th, 2014

@ChicagoNative He could be the leader of a new york gang and i still would say he isn’t top 10. i don’t care what level of “thug” he is on, he is just not that great.

@Brucewayne11 gave his life to hip hop? he was shot up? not sacrificed.

February 25th, 2014

Didn’t Pac go double plat while in Prison???

Biggie went platinum when he wasn’t even breathing so that doesn’t really impress me.

February 25th, 2014