Lord Finesse To Sue Mac Miller For $10 Million Over "Kool AId & Frozen Pizza" (Back to the forum)

Here’s the full story.
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/07/lord-finesse-is-suing-mac-miller-for-10-million

Rap Genius-favorite (sarcasm) Mac Miller is being sued by Lord Finesse for “Kool Aid…”, a song he released off his free mixtape “K.I.D.S.” back in 2010.

I don’t really understand the exact motive behind Finesse’s actions beside all the legal “copyright infringement” yada yada yada… This song was released almost two years ago and MILLIONS of rappers have used others' beats on their own free projects. I don’t really get it.

And $10 mil? Jesus. Is Finesse desperate for money or something?

Finesse desperate for money or something?

He quit the rap game almost 20 years ago and he’s been doing just fine, don’t kid yourself.

Now I don’t remember, but supposedly Mac used it commercially, which you’re definitely not supposed to do. Either way, Finesse should be ashamed of himself.

Mac’s rant on twitter is hilarious and depressing, though. he knows he is forever ruined if he loses this lawsuit.

Lord Finnesse, he be puttin it on

That’s what you get when ya fakin tha Funk

How exactly was this used commercially?

Ain’t shit free and fuck it if u jack 4 a beat that’s copyrighted then u gotta pay up but I wonder what would happen if Mac jacked 1 of Danny Brown’s beets

That’s why I said “supposedly,” people said he did and if he did (and Mac’s tweets are depressing, so there’s a chance he might have), then he will definitely lose. shrugs shoulders

regardless, it’s a fucked up situation.

^ leave. Now.

swag swag swag

Daam, first MOP sues John Cena now this

@MonsterIslander don’t forget Pete Rock & Lupe

Lol didn’t Mac get confronted about stealing someone else’s beat back then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pv1_mmOTb8&feature=youtube_gdata_player Get it together, Maccy. Handle your business.

Lord Finesse never got outta the hood. My friend see’s him all the time in 142nd st.

#TeamFinesse

Fuck Mac Miller

You can hate on Mac. I don’t care. But hip hop, and entertainment in the internet age, NEEDS Mac to win this case.

Ever want to put out a mixtape? Maybe spit over a favorite beat or two? That’s not an option if Mac loses. Finesse is suing because even though Mac released the video for free, which is totally acceptable, it got him popular.

That means any struggling MC’s dreams could just be wiped off.

Beyond that, ever want to make a youtube video? Or any form of free entertainment? Well, anything that you do not create or are given permission to create is off limits.

Every remix video, every parody song, every fan made music video: gone.

This shit is almost like SOPA all over again.

Finesse is threating a key part of the culture here. He wants to, in effect, kill the mixtape. I’m not a Mac fan, but he’s not trying to destroy a key part of the culture.

How could you be on his side?

shows how out-of-touch lord finesse is with new media and how ignorant and self-destructive the hip hop community is. like silky said, you don’t want finesse to win…

Nope Silky Johnson, in the rap world rappers got sued all the time. They just had to bite the bullet. These rappers and their record companies had to diss out the cash. I remember in 98-2000 rappers were hardly sampling. Its how the game goes. I do think 10 mill is too much. They might just have an out of court settlement for a couple hundred thou.

40 acres and a mule muthafuckas

Don’t care for Mac Miller… But no one deserves to be sued that hard..

On this site youre gonna have people waving their POMS POMS for Wack Miller, of course.

This lawsuit is pure bullshit.

^ I agree, shoulda been at least $20 mill

@Silky Johnson

I don´t like Mac Miller but you´re 110% right. And I´m 99% sure Lord Finesse will lose.

How you gonna sue somebody over a track they put on a mixtape. Lord Finesse hatin with his punk ass. I don’t think the court would even settle for 10mil. And if they do I don’t see how this will ruin his career. Mac will always have buzz to put out more material.

It’ll ruin his career because Mac has nowhere near $10 million.

I personally don’t see the point in suing a person for a song that was released for free. He’s not making money off the song and Finesse isn’t losing money, it’s like the Eagles and Frank Ocean situation.

Lol yea umm Mac Miller doesn’t have 10mil thats not even reasonable for some sounds? Over some sounds though? … Broke !

Mac’s twitter rant

http://www.complex.com/music/2012/07/mac-miller-responds-to-lord-finesse-lawsuit Seems like lord is a little desperate

I like how Mac tweets: 1,2,3,5 then 4

sounds like the lupe pete rock dispute to me

Not sure of the validity, but Mac is saying that Finesse never even cleared the sample.

If that’s the case — Finesse needs to fall the fuck back.

Finesse should just body that fool for taking that smooth and legendary beat and rapping about kool aid…

Also, Finesse is claiming this song launched Mac Miller’s career…so technically Finesse should be the one getting sued, am i right?

They should have a battle to the death tbh

A song called cool aide how much sugar does he use we use to use a half of bag mix up flavor and shit purple, green and red makes brown man shit mac dont no shit bout cool aide

^ … what?

I really hope 301CUZZO isn’t a troll.

Lol I looked up Mac Miller’s net worth on Google

$1.5 million

man, I heard his concerts sold out online in a matter of minutes, and he has the best-selling independent record of the past at least 5 years and he only has that?
I know regular people with houses worth about that much.

Never thought I’d side with Mac Miller vs. a legend like Lord Finesse…but yeah, fuck Finesse for this. There’s no way that beat is even worth $10 million originally. This sounds like an ego trip that got out of hand.

@marshall_blathers, when you have 1.5 million at the age of 20, then you can talk

10 mill is step tho he should settle with 500,000 call it a day leave mac wit a mill he gonna make it bacc asap he got loyal fans but 10 mill he bumped his head
“cant get blood from a turnup”

^I figured that everyone saying he made no money off of it was stupid, there’s no way Finesse would sue him over a song that he literally made no money off of.

Maybe it’s just something I don’t understand but how exactly can you sue somebody off a song from a mixtape. Even though the mixtape brought some popularity to Mac, since he didn’t sell the mixtape how could Finesse have a case

^Read the post two posts above yours.

youtube made money off of the ads so why doesn’t finesse fucking sue them too

So whack. People talk about all these old school dudes like they really cared about hip-hop, like they lived and breathed it. But first that Pete Rock shit, now this? It’s so fucking bad for rap, ya’ll are crazy if you supported Pete Rock with his shit or support Finesse now.

cant sue youtube its called broadcast urself 4 a reason cuz what u put on there and whatever happens u can only blame urself

@301
Yeah, but if youtube knew he was “launching his career” off of it, then they could get in trouble too I guess.

Honestly, there is no way Mac will lose this.