Genres Hip Hop Will Never Blend With (Back to The Forum)

As you know Hip hop is probably the most musically influenced genre to date. Well I just listened to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrv-f2zfyvA Which I like for what is; an indie electronic song. I just will never hear someone rap over this type of beat (flow seems kinda difficult). There must be some others (guessing they’ll be very esoteric).

theophilus london raps to beats that sound like that… kind of…

You obviously havent heard Kendrick Lamar 5 fingers of death. He rapped over dubstep

lol that’s not dubstep

it might just be me but I really cant fuck with rap that has rock in the background like actual drums and guitar and shit I just cant

I’m pretty sure Kanye West has rapped over a beat like this

I rapped over atleast 23 beats like this, called them all Michael Jordan and they’re all Platinum Singles

@absurd, for me rap over guitar riffs and such is great when done right, although not many people do that.

I will also agree with the Rock and Rap. It always sounds like a good idea but it never comes off because most of the MC that try it have no roots in Rock music. Try just try for the hardest riff they can find and add it to a beat.

I think it should be continued to be explored. Run-DMC did it well because Rick Rubin was a Metal head and it was the 80’s when Rock ruled. I cannot think off anyone who sounded good doing this other than Run, D, and JMJ. Sure Jay-Z and Onyx sold records but the feeling was still novelty not truth.

Jazz is much more suited for the poetry of Hip-Hop.

“I cannot think off anyone who sounded good doing this other than Run, D, and JMJ”…you ever heard of Rage Against the Machine? You know, the Alternative Metal (Rap/Metal) band with one of the most harshly underrated MCs of all-time in Zack De la Rocha as a frontman?

It sounds like a modern day version of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAnojTvyc0g&feature=related

Yeah Rock & Rap will never blend..

^^co-sign

Now one genre I think Hip-Hop will never blend with is probably Country…

hip hop doesnt blend with irish folk music

Electronic Music…. it’s not a coincidence that you haven’t heard any respectable rappers and respectable DJ’s collaborate yet.

Southern Hip Hop with guitar riffs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuV9hCYzzTg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nk5jr0m1Lg

Country is one that it can never blend with, but besides that:

Esham did the Rap Metal thing way back in the 90's
I would say El-P’s beats teeter on Techno sometimes
And we all know who does that Pop Rap bullshit…

German polka.

I’ve heard country rap songs tbh. I don’t think ska or polka will ever be tried, actually, so I'mma go with Metal

RE: Country, “Black Grass” is a classic track that has been sampled by Wu-Tang Clan, Doug E. Fresh, and Special Ed. It’s not technically “country,” but it does have a blue-grass type sound, and you could achieve the same effect by sampling country or blue grass and mixing it with some more hip-hop elements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcEBz_m4y0

I would have to say folk music

Hip hop can blend with any music depending on the artist and producer. A good producer can chop anything up make it sound dope, even fucken' Yodeling music.

Matter of fact during the early stages of rap rappers constantly tried to imitate or mock other music so people will accept it. Fat Boys did a collaberation with fucken' Beach Boys for a remake of Wipe Out for Chrissakes. Rappers would even incorperate theme songs and beats from popular cartoons and movies. As a kid remember some rap song that used the beat from Twilight Zone and another rap song use the Smurf’s theme song. And I can’t forget The Square Dance rap.
NOTHING IS OUTTA BOUNDS IN RAP
When Killah Priest rapped over the Australian Didgeridoo I knew it was a wrap.

Once again UKCDOT has proofed he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, Stick to Counting Crows,kid. Hip Hop ain’t your shtick

Literally never heard of Counting Crows.
Also it’s proved.

nah i disagree hip hop goes great with country music because they have similar style lyrics

It can be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lGKl9TRkvU

And Pimp C often said he did ‘country rap tunes’.

“I would say El-P’s beats teeter on Techno sometimes”

huh?

^^{^^} Yea I’m curious, why do EL-P’s beats sound like Techno? Or do you just not know what Techno actually is? Recently, his beats have sounded like shitty dubstep.

if you think ratm is bad your opinion on music is invalid, and el-p makes weird beats i would not call it techno, dubstep or none of that it’s more like experimental trip hop idk what to call it honestly….

You know just cause rappers have never rapped on country type beats or whatever. doesn’t mean that some country artist don’t incorporate Rap styled verse. Sure it doesn’t sound like it’s rap, but the why it’s layered out, and the lit. devices they use could technically be considered country-rap.

Didn’t Ludacris hop on a country song a couple years ago?

For ska, I actually saw a local ska band do a cover of The Real Slim Shady, it was pretty sweet

Rap can work with rock/metal stuff. Just look at Eyedea and Abilities last album “By The Troath”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9-eKhCukW8

@Park. Eyedea was a metal and rock kid when he was young…

rap x rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4n6bXpAQ3I

http://soundcloud.com/arktik-sunz/snailhead-tim-zen-eating

This is some electronic rock with folk influenced vocals and 2 rapped verses. You can rap on anything.

to all the people that are saying rap doesn’t go with folk. You should listen to what the great man called Yasiin Bey said. He explains that Hip Hop IS folk music in this new Ice-T documentary.

@kfanis, why don’t you just say Mos Def? He is more known under that name. You should atleast mention it…

Hip-hop comes from Jamaica, the sound clashes and whatnot that can be traced back to ska (itself tracing back to rocksteady, and before that, calypso and mento), so it would be strange if hip-hop couldn’t mix with it. There’s also something to be said for the banjo, originally a black folk-music instrument, as the originator of popular music in America, and the records that the sound-clash DJs in Jamaica were playing in the 40’s and 50’s were from America. “Blue grass” is actually a retro style; but the music it tries to emulate is older, black folk music that eventually turned into blues and rock ‘n roll. Point being, if you examine deeply enough, “country music” and ska are both in hip-hop’s DNA.

@efemjay

“itself tracing back to rocksteady, and before that, calypso and mento”

Wiki states Rocksteady is form derived from Ska not the reverse.

I never exactly got how Jamaican music was the roots of Hip Hop. I don’t see how Calypso, Mento, Ska all fit into this even though its said to be so. I mean I get how the methods of remixing/sampling shit from records aka the “riddim” part and toasting from Dub, but other than that I can’t really see the elements of these whole branch of music and its format became Hip Hop.

off-topic to this thread: Also it would be interesting if you want to start a thread discussing Hip Hop’s roots. I found that quite a hard to pin down precisely type of topic.

“^{^^} Yea I’m curious, why do EL-P’s beats sound like Techno? Or do you just not know what Techno actually is? Recently, his beats have sounded like shitty dubstep”

I didn’t agree with what I quoted infact the contrary. You’re dumb as fuck if you think El-P’s work sound like Dubstep or Techno.

Algernon: That sounds awesome. I wanted to be in a Ska-Hop band for so long but I could never find anybody who was down.

Anyways, finally weighing in on this thread-this thread is ridiculous. People are already blending hip-hop with every genre that y'all say can’t be blended, with the possible exception of traditional German Polka music. I’m sure that’s being done somewhere too.
Hip-Hop and country can actually go together pretty well. Want proof? Canibus and Biz Markie interpolated an old Country song to make this slap from the Office Space soundtrack. Yeah, I know a lot of y'all don’t fuck with Canibus, and I’m definitely not his biggest fan, but listen to the song.
And for those of you who will absolutely be like “canibus lolnope”, aight, fine, I see you. Have Redlight King’s sample & interpolation of Neil Young’s classic “Old Man”

Bluegrass + Rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezRhtnWWUUc

Maybe off-topic, but am I the only one who thinks Kendrick Lamar on Clams Casino’s beats would be dope?

^I do believe that you are on to something there.

That would be the shit.

I’m just posting this because I love it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBnJnXq4YQ8&feature=related

For those talking about rap-country music, just listen to this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnBp4PLeY08

It is possible to blend hip-hop with ANY genre, you just need to be prejudice-free

From a producer perspective, I find great samples in many various genres. I’ve used country, rock, soul, rnb, hip-hop, jazz, dubstep, house, etc.

Basically, it can blend with anything. Shoot, I even sampled Bulgarian choral music in one track…

Screw any other genre of music except:
Hip hop x R&B