Why isn't The Eminem Show considered a classic?

SSLP and MMLP are the two Em-albums that are considered to be classics by most hip-hop fans, but what about TES? I admit I have some nostalgic bias related to this album, but in my opinion it might be his best, at least on the same level as his first two (yes, I am aware of Infinite, I just ignore it). Lyrically it’s on point, the beats are great, the singles were huge AND it’s his best-selling album. Why isn’t this acknowledged as a a classic?

I mean look at it:

I know SSLP and MMLP were far more shocking when they came out, but I think it has been established that Em is good for far more than shocking lyrics. What do you think?

July 5th, 2013
C_Goomba's photo


The Eminem Show is Em’s last GREAT album. idk who the fuck told you it isn’t but it’s such a great quality album.
Let’s just leave this thread to die in peace now


July 5th, 2013

because its shit

July 5th, 2013

TES is considered a classic by some.

Eminem has mixed views. A lot of people will say MMLP was his only classic.

July 5th, 2013

There are mixed views of every artist except Ja Rule, tho..
I’m under the impression that the average music critic wouldn’t cite TES as a significant release, but that might just be me.

July 5th, 2013

The Eminem Show is definitely a classic. I don’t know anybody who seriously says that it isn’t.

July 5th, 2013
Paradoggs's photo


TES is my favorite Eminem album so if you ask me, it IS a classic.

July 5th, 2013

The biggest mistake Rap Genius makes is that every album they like is a classic. There are some classics that are WITHOUT A DOUBT a fucking classic (Enter the 36 Chambers, The Low End Theory, Illmatic, and etc the list continues). In my opinion TES was a good album but for god’s sake it didn’t do anything to influence the genre in any other way, he already had SSLP and MMLP which had a significant impact on hip-hop, but TES wasn’t anything fucking groundbreaking; for example The Low End Theory, which was one of the first hip-hop albums to incorporate Jazz elements. TES was honestly no different than SSLP or MMLP and just because it’s good, doesn’t mean its classic.


July 5th, 2013

finally a good reply

I actually think TES did show a conspicuous growth that is unusual for rappers who have dropped two succesful albums. Most rappers let their guard down after their first album, but Em kept spitting, which is remarkable. As for the music, the beats do have an anthemic rock-sound that I really don’t feel had been explored before.
The songs covered a wide range of subjects, some of which hadn’t really been covered before.

Overall the album shows growth both lyrically and sonically, and IMO meets the qualifications of being called a classic. It’s not just recycling his previous two albums but has it’s own esthetic.

July 5th, 2013
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Some of the lyrics on TES are excellent.

For me, he conveys a lot of emotion with his lyrics on that one, without using shock value, like he did on the previous two.

July 5th, 2013

Eminem at his finest along with the MMLP IMO

July 5th, 2013
SDVG's photo


because it isnt, and neither are MMLP or SSLP

July 5th, 2013

It was a good album, I’d say Em’s last decent album. I think the closest he’s come to a classic would be MMLP. TES isn’t classic material though- it has it’s share of filler and I think Em started to decline lyrically on that album.

July 5th, 2013
MYH's photo


Em has no classics tbr

July 5th, 2013

it has it’s share of filler and I think Em started to decline lyrically on that album.

looking at the tracklist i’m finding it hard to find any filler at all, with drips being the only exception.

July 5th, 2013